tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397350.post110693440438499227..comments2023-10-06T12:08:56.879-04:00Comments on 3W: There is a difference, zev.Zevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02174266905866513724noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397350.post-1107205186268721412005-01-31T15:59:00.000-05:002005-01-31T15:59:00.000-05:00i refrained from correcting this before, but since...i refrained from correcting this before, but since it's been specifically referenced, "ha-melacha" is merubah, not "ha-avodah." while i'm already being obnoxious (which I am really only doing b/c mimsquotes disrupt the heavenly spheres...), isn't it "Asher asah _lecha_ amalek.?"<br />in some ways, actually, melacha may be more like the arbeit in quetion than avodah. but again, it can be heaven-directed - with shabbos. shabbos-less melacha is destructive. funilly enough, this was what rav goldvicht talked about yesterday. perhaps more on that when i'm not at work...miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11896163171832646138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7397350.post-1106941647755455612005-01-28T14:47:00.000-05:002005-01-28T14:47:00.000-05:00Um, firstly as a help please include citations to ...Um, firstly as a help please include citations to your quotes. It sounds like the first quote is the "Anu ratzim ve'hem ratzim" but, slightly off. I am guessing it has a similar thrust though. <br /><br />Chazal have many different ideas of avodah. To construct a one-to-one with avodah and avodat Hashem is a bit simplistic, to my mind. Besides, my point was the different emphesis of toil; irony, if you will (ya know what that is, boy?). If you did not understand it the first time, chances are you won't pick it up on the second either.<br /><br />I can't believe you linked to the Shema Yisroel Torah Network on the blog! The Emek HaDavar quoted is slightly problematic in its own right, and that elitist banter is not attractive at all. I do not understand how it is relevant to the raysha at all. Finally halacha le'maise we don't actuall hold like that. We encourage people to become gerei toshav and not accept the taryag. You have had a hard week, I understand.<br /><br />Finally (talking about elitist) check <A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fquizilla.com%2Fusers%2Fthebecca%2Fquizzes%2FWhat%2520Kind%2520of%2520Elitist%2520Are%2520You%253F%2F">this</A> out. It's (almost) all true. I wanted to click every choice. How sad. Who can choose, art or books? Life is tough.Zevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174266905866513724noreply@blogger.com